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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.44
PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:23 am 

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I'm building an update now, will test it more thoroughly tomorrow. Basically, the difference in transient detection (which is good for the limiter because it distorts less) is causing the bass to be increased for a longer period than before in Natural Dynamics, which gives excessive bass, and the mids are boosted about 2 dB less. I have restored the old behavior now... I hope that's all (the rest is very similar, but not PERFECTLY identical so I still have to check if there's a noticeable difference - I'm guessing that the improved transient detection also slightly affects the release behavior of the compressors. Which seems to slightly change the output level (probably in the order of 0.1 dB or so - but I'll measure it more precisely tomorrow when the release is available, there's also always a difference between release and debug builds).

BTW: The new version will also have a (still very rudimentary, I worked only a few hours on it so far) new stereo widener.
Thanks Hans... I'm always amazed at how quickly you fix reported errors. :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.44
PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:41 pm 
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I'm building an update now, will test it more thoroughly tomorrow. Basically, the difference in transient detection (which is good for the limiter because it distorts less) is causing the bass to be increased for a longer period than before in Natural Dynamics, which gives excessive bass, and the mids are boosted about 2 dB less. I have restored the old behavior now... I hope that's all (the rest is very similar, but not PERFECTLY identical so I still have to check if there's a noticeable difference - I'm guessing that the improved transient detection also slightly affects the release behavior of the compressors. Which seems to slightly change the output level (probably in the order of 0.1 dB or so - but I'll measure it more precisely tomorrow when the release is available, there's also always a difference between release and debug builds).

BTW: The new version will also have a (still very rudimentary, I worked only a few hours on it so far) new stereo widener.
Thanks Hans... I'm always amazed at how quickly you fix reported errors. :-)
I have to, people are using it :)


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.44
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:54 pm 

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So, Hans, are 7.44 ready to install?
I have 7.42 running onair.
Because those posts with some problems reported (Natural Dynamics..) It's now secure to run this version?

Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.44
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:19 pm 

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After a week of working perfect. the process froze and windows appeared Poster "Stereo Tool not responding". (stereo tool was minimized).
I have returned to ST. 7.42


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.44
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:18 pm 
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After a week of working perfect. the process froze and windows appeared Poster "Stereo Tool not responding". (stereo tool was minimized).
I have returned to ST. 7.42
Version 7.44 final? Which version exactly? Windows, Linux, Mac, 32 or 64 bits? And were you using VLC?

Since it was minimized you cannot have seen if there was a popup window - can you check the directory C:\temp?
1. Does that directory exist?
2. If so, check if there's a file called something like Stereo_Tool_exceptions_log.txt in it. If so, please send it to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.44
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:52 pm 
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So, Hans, are 7.44 ready to install?
I have 7.42 running onair.
Because those posts with some problems reported (Natural Dynamics..) It's now secure to run this version?

Thanks
There's an issue with the bass in Natural Dynamics. So you might want to wait for 7.45 (which I expect to be ready next weekend).


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.44
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:26 pm 

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After a week of working perfect. the process froze and windows appeared Poster "Stereo Tool not responding". (stereo tool was minimized).
I have returned to ST. 7.42
Version 7.44 final? Which version exactly? Windows, Linux, Mac, 32 or 64 bits? And were you using VLC?

Since it was minimized you cannot have seen if there was a popup window - can you check the directory C:\temp?
1. Does that directory exist?
2. If so, check if there's a file called something like Stereo_Tool_exceptions_log.txt in it. If so, please send it to me.
It is Stereo Tool 7.44 Final. Version standalone on Windows 32 Bit. (Processing FM)

Look in the "C:" drive, but I did not find that folder

I am not using VCL. I have only VirtualCable input, ESI -> Julia Output.
Did not see any popup window, I remember that I had a problem earlier use 5 seconds of buffer, and you corrected in this version, you may have to do with it. the strange thing is that I work long before hung.


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.44
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:10 am 
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Hm... Do you have 'Synchronize to output' enabled? (Reason for question: If not, the sound cards will be restarted at some point, and we've already seen that that can cause a hangup on your system. If that's indeed it, I can build a version that continuously restarts the sound cards to see if we can reproduce - and if so, fix - it (but: I suppose your pc is in use...). So I'll try if I can reproduce it here - if you can first answer this question.

I actually already wanted to ask if you had a Juli@ - I've seen problems with the Juli@ sound card driver in the past, but that was always within seconds after starting. If it is a sound card (driver) issue, then it's probably there in ALL versions but happens VERY rarely. That will be hard to test though... :cry: Hm, but thinking further - a sound card hangup should not cause the whole program to stop responding.

I'll have to look this up tomorrow, but I am guessing that "not responding" is different from things like "performed an illegal operation" - which would mean that nothing crashed but something got stuck. (Did you by any chance look at the CPU load when it was stuck?). And then that something must be in the GUI thread. Will look into this further tomorrow - I'll check if there are any wait commands in it.


If C:\temp does not exist, than Stereo Tool cannot write an error log to a file (I actually assumed originally that that directory exists by default, but you're not the first who doesn't have it; I guess I'll have to find a different directory to log to).


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.44
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:41 am 

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So, Hans, are 7.44 ready to install?
I have 7.42 running onair.
Because those posts with some problems reported (Natural Dynamics..) It's now secure to run this version?

Thanks
There's an issue with the bass in Natural Dynamics. So you might want to wait for 7.45 (which I expect to be ready next weekend).

Thanks,

So, I'll wait :)


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 Post subject: Re: Stereo Tool 7.44
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:33 pm 

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Hm... Do you have 'Synchronize to output' enabled? (Reason for question: If not, the sound cards will be restarted at some point, and we've already seen that that can cause a hangup on your system. If that's indeed it, I can build a version that continuously restarts the sound cards to see if we can reproduce - and if so, fix - it (but: I suppose your pc is in use...). So I'll try if I can reproduce it here - if you can first answer this question.

I actually already wanted to ask if you had a Juli@ - I've seen problems with the Juli@ sound card driver in the past, but that was always within seconds after starting. If it is a sound card (driver) issue, then it's probably there in ALL versions but happens VERY rarely. That will be hard to test though... :cry: Hm, but thinking further - a sound card hangup should not cause the whole program to stop responding.

I'll have to look this up tomorrow, but I am guessing that "not responding" is different from things like "performed an illegal operation" - which would mean that nothing crashed but something got stuck. (Did you by any chance look at the CPU load when it was stuck?). And then that something must be in the GUI thread. Will look into this further tomorrow - I'll check if there are any wait commands in it.


If C:\temp does not exist, than Stereo Tool cannot write an error log to a file (I actually assumed originally that that directory exists by default, but you're not the first who doesn't have it; I guess I'll have to find a different directory to log to).
I am not using the sync function output.
Unfortunately I can not put my test PC to disposition all the time, because without it, our radio is off air. But if necessary could be tested two or three hours in the morning.

Right now I have reintalado previous version, you could try again with the previous version in the early morning hours, but the problem appeared after one week of operation, so do not think it serves.

The truth about the burden I have not looked, the thing was as follows:
I received a notice that the radio was out of air, enter the remote PC that processes sound, and I find a poster of Windows "Stereo Tool not responding"
After this, I again open StereoTool and worked well.
But once I closed it and restore a previous version.

Sorry if there are problems in the translation, I do not speak English.


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