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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:35 pm 
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Almost done now, just need a good default value for the new RELATIVE highs sensitivity slider. Will post a new beta tonight.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:00 pm 
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that's the thing.. there is no default value for that ..like for current sens also. All depend on how much is loudness input and loudness slider settings.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:21 am 
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Added a new slider to control sensitivity to highs separately (note: RELATIVE to total sensitivity, I hope it will be possible to find a single value for this that always works).
Fixed another BS412 volume drop issue - I *really* think I've got them all now...

Stand alone: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 31-019.exe
DSP: http://www.stereotool.com/download/dsp_ ... 31-019.exe
VST: http://www.stereotool.com/download/vst_ ... 31-019.dll
Command line: http://www.stereotool.com/download/ster ... 31-019.exe

TODO:
- BUG: When switching from latency 512 to 4096, Loudness is broken. Fixed when you enable/disable shortcuts!
- BS412 final AGC default settings need to change
- When BS412 and Bass Boost are enabled, show a warning
- Drops still occur in BS412! --> Ow, it's not as sudden as I thought. Have to check this one... I suppose when there's a bigger drop than allowed I should briefly drop even further. But that should not be needed. I don't get it, something is wrong... Might be fixed now, test tomorrow - Drops are gone, checking if there's no effect on normal audio...
- Can 'Allowed highs distortion - strictness' be reduced to 1 now? (have to test that - I should at least enable that setting) - No, at least 2. Still have some doubts if 10 is better than 2 (difference is small). Leaving it at default 3 for now.
- Asymmetric bass reduction should not go below dynamic threshold
- Remove 1 preset (there are too many for proper display in the GUI) - No, shrunk font instead
- Maybe sort them differently? - No
- Take bass clipping into account with BS412 (will allow bass boost etc. to be used without too many issues) - Bad - unwanted effects, just use a proper bass limiting setting and this won't have much effect anyway.
- Add Bangkok FM preset - Done, but waiting for feedback from Bojcha on some questions
- Fill in a correct level for each preset to make it sound good with BS412
- Add extra setting to configure dynamic bass clipping level sensitivity differently for high frequencies.Done, works great , but I need to find a good default value -> 0.50, and add loading/saving.
- Split values for Singleband AGC for BS412. Will fix the sound of Bojcha's Addiction preset.
- Add Bojcha's Naomi One FM preset
- BS412 upspeed must be slower, now you can (very very slightly) hear a difference in volume occurring.
- Fix bug: Volume sometimes drops to 0 when BS412 is disabled and doesn't come back even if you press RESET. Haven't seen this one the last few days - assuming that it's solved...
- Release
Future: Sensitivity calculation: Calculate WHERE exactly the bass needs to be dropped, and ignore start.
Future: BS412: If there's some silence near the tail of the 60 seconds, reduce up-speed so we don't have to drop again. Maybe even a separate calculation which takes silence into account?

Edit: Suggested value for now slider around 0.40-0.50 - lower if you increase sensitivity.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:02 pm 
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@Hans: could you detailing a little more, which makes control "Relative Highs Sens." ? :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:11 pm 
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@Hans: could you detailing a little more, which makes control "Relative Highs Sens." ? :)
Before, the whole frequency range above approx. 500 Hz was used to calculate how much the bass needs to be dropped. But, since Stereo Tool's clipper has a 'highs intermodulation distortion protection' filter (which, to my knowledge, no-one else has :) ), there's far less need for protection at those high frequencies. This slider lets you reduce the sensitivity for those high frequencies, RELATIVE to the sensitivity for mid frequencies. Result is a more constant and louder bass.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:06 pm 
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@Hans: could you detailing a little more, which makes control "Relative Highs Sens." ? :)
Before, the whole frequency range above approx. 500 Hz was used to calculate how much the bass needs to be dropped. But, since Stereo Tool's clipper has a 'highs intermodulation distortion protection' filter (which, to my knowledge, no-one else has :) ), there's far less need for protection at those high frequencies. This slider lets you reduce the sensitivity for those high frequencies, RELATIVE to the sensitivity for mid frequencies. Result is a more constant and louder bass.
Thanks Hans for the explanation, I now understand the use of control. There was found within the thread explaining it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:22 pm 
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But, since Stereo Tool's clipper has a 'highs intermodulation distortion protection' filter (which, to my knowledge, no-one else has :) )
I'm not sure, look what it says Leif http://www.claessonedwards.com/forum/vi ... =159&p=653 (mainly in the last post) and Orban has a Bass Clip with distortion-cancelling. I'm not sure they have the same effect.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:28 pm 
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It's good to mention that this is good for FM presets, actually when 50 or 75us is ON. BUT, also for non-FM loud and/or with lot of highs presets.
Also this will reduce overall level drop caused by highs, but it 'might' cause small highs distortion. Yea, some tradeoff is more possible now.

Some default settings i found (but much depend on Loudness level) is x0.50 also x0.40.
Currently i am testing 0.30 with some mid-loud fm preset, but with more 'sens', meaning more reaction/protection for mids and less on highs. Good for now ;)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:37 pm 
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Ah, my internet connection is finally back :)

@gpagliaroli: I know that Leif doesn't have this. That post was about something completely different (which I didn't have until this new version, Bass Shape). Don't know about Orban though.

@Bojcha: I've set the default to 0.40 - maybe I should indeed set it to 0.50 since it's a default value for both FM and non-FM presets... Question: Would it be easier if it's not relative to the other value but absolute?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:25 pm 

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Do we feel like we are feature-complete yet? I have an "R3" update to Purity Control that I'm withholding until everything is considered "finalized" with the software.


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